Friday, August 5, 2011

The surpise 6th coffin


1st
Entirely possible that the sixth coffin could have contained Shisui. Nagato's reanimation body retained his eyes even though Tobi/Madara had removed them. It is possible that Kabuto's "trump card" is Shisui's body that may retain a portion of his original strength. Although now Kabuto realizes that Itachi is beyond his control so it is possible that Shisui would also be beyond his control as well. Or perhaps the only reason Itachi is unable to be controlled it only due to the eye implanted within the crow.

2nd

sorry man but look where kabuto talks about the edo tensei jutsu, he says he can't revive shisui due to lack of DNA

3rd

For me... i think its Minato..xD
just by the reaction of madara..

4th
It can't be Minato because he sealed himself. We've discussed this so many times, but we'll never really know until, well you know.

5th
ahh...I was trying to think about the 6th coffin, but when you said that, I was just like "Ahh! Maybe that's it?". Kabuto doesn't have Shisui's DNA...just yet, right? He could get it from the eye of the crow, and in fact I think he is trying to do it now using Nagato. He did say his luck was getting better and better...

but then that would mean that the body in the 6th coffin isn't Shisui. The suspension is killing me~~~

and by the way, I don't seem to be able to recall what happened to Danzo's body, because Danzo did have one of Shisui's eyes, right

6th
my brother thought it would be madara's brother too, and i think it's reasonable guess, i personally think it might be madara's original body, i don't know why he would be afraid of his brother like he seemed to be afraid of the mystery body, but it might have also been shock not fear, there aren't a lot of clues as to who it is, so it's really hard to say with any accuracy

7th
Danzo destroyed the shisui's sharingan which means no one can use it ( it's jutsu etc. and has no light hope you guys understand ), but in shisui's sharingan ( which danzo had ) there is enough DNA to revive shisui, he might probably one of the main plot of this war ( tailed beasts, madara, kabuto and shisui's eye ).
-As for the 6th coffin after what i have seen about uchiha i mean what their eyes ( especially MS ) are capable of it won't be stupid to say it's madara's brother cause we don't know what MS power he has probably a jutsu that tobi's time space jutsu can't dodge.

8th
If it's the Rikudou, I doubt Kabuto would be letting Madara make all the demands. I bet the guy in the coffin is someone who will potentially sabotage his plan (most likely Izuna) but not so much that he'd let Kabuto call the shots. In fact, I doubt Madara cares if Kabuto exposes him now since Zetsu and Sasuke (somewhat) are on his side. Kisame's dead. Even if Tobi really isn't Madara, who cares? He's got the Rinnegan and is still stronger than everybody. Doesn't matter if he was some weakling before (he wasn't anyway). So pretty much, Madara and Kabuto are trying to outdo the other. The Rinnegan was Madara's goal anyway but it got rid of the 6th coffin threat probably. Now, apparently, Kabuto has some other ace (which he didn't tell Madara about). In response, Madara got the 6 Paths. Kabuto's trying to get Shisui's eye. Wonder what Madara will get next?

9th
By using the name Madara Uchia, Tobi was able to make everyone believe his threats have some validity (a single man declaring war on 5 nations isn't something an ordinary man can do). Since the 6th coffin was brought into the manga before the actually war started it is possible that it contained someone that simply knew the true identity of Tobi. The coffin may simply be someone with information rather than someone of equal or greater power.
As far as "if the 6th coffin isn't someone strong, why doesn't Tobi just kill them?". You need to remember that Tobi tried to avoid any actual combat because it was stated a few times that he is just a meer shell of the man he was and cannot afford to be weakened by fighting unnesessary battles.

10th
My opinion is that is is the uchiha clan ancestor. I think this because kabuto is not a stupid person and probably didn't summon the sage of the six paths because it would be too much power to realistically control. However, the uchiha ancestor has a eye jutsu that we have yet to learn about. It would not supprise me at all if this is who kabuto summoned and if his eye jutsu is written about on the stone tablet that the sage left behind. If this is so, then madara should know about it, thus explaining his WTF face.

11th
I think its sage of the six path


Naruto is Overpowered? and the Legends Minato and Shisui

1st
Minato was hailed as the fastest shinobi and the Strongest Youngest Kage ever lived in Naruto World. And here's Uchiha who has the power of the most powerful genjutsu of the Uchiha Clan, even an Eternal Mangekyou user cannot detect if the Koto Amatsukami is activated.. It can either deflect the power of tsokuyumi and amaterasu.. So here's Naruto... With an overpowered character, look, he has the unlimited chakra of the 9 tailed fox, he has a resemblance with the original sage of the six path with his 9 tails mode, he has the sage mode, he has the power of the most powerful genjutsu... Man!! Give me your opinion guys

2nd
Well Naruto is extremely overpowered but so is sasuke and madara he has the rinnegan and EMS and aslo u cant forget the the raikage was going head to head with naruto in his new nine tails mode tell bee jumped in

3rd
Not again this threads... Overpowered this overpowered that. Of course he is strong, he is main character for Christ sake.

Kakashi was strong, untill some real beasts showed up, Hashirama was the strongest in his era and he died, Nidaime died, Hiruzen died...They were all the strongest.

The point you've make is nonsense..Do you know what means overpowered? Using SM, RM and two toads in the same time...That's what means overpowered.

In terms of using only one mode at time, he is conisderably weak, since every god**ned mode has drawbacks. SM lasts for 5 min max, yet it doesn't give him and genjutsu it only enhances it.

RM doesn't grant him genjutsu he is considerably weak against genjutsu in every mode.

OVERPOWERED means going beyond everything. I would say Tobi is being overpowered right now and not Naruto.

4th
naruto doesnt not have access to the shisui's genjutsu. What happened in this last chapter was a one time thing which naruto had zero control over. itachi activated the crow that has shisui's eye because it was programmed to react to his (itachi's) eyes. As far as we know now naruto cant call forth the crow he cant controls its power and even if he could it will require a decade before it can be activated again. I wouldnt be surprised if kishi alters that at some point but as it stands now the crow with shisuis eye doesnt really add to narutos power

Orichimaru revive.....

Thursday, August 4, 2011

Shisui fought Danzo?


1st
So apparently, Itachi and Shisui had that talk about his eyes after he had already lost one eye. So any idea why Danzo fought shisui and took the other eye?

At first we thought Danzo took the eye after Shisui was dead, but in the latest chapter, he is already missing an eye.

Unless he gave Itachi his left eye and then died. BUT Danzo wouldn't have seen the eye if he went and got it after Shisui died b/c shisui was s'posed to have made it look like both eyes were gone.

And he couldn't have cast the jutsu without any eyes..

2nd
No, he gave it to him. The 3 of them were friends IMO, and how is it possible Danzo who is weaker than any Uchiha could steal it?

3rd
Shisui gave his sharingan to Danzo reluctantly but Shisui apparently valued and loved the village just as much as Itachi did and maybe even more. It's a surprise to me that the translation clearly said Mangekyo Sharingan so this means Shisui had MS as well.

4th
Remember Madara said they last met with Danzo since the Uchiha incident. May be Madara assisted Danzo. Or Madara foucht Shizui succeeded taking one eye, and Danzo came to aid a near-death Shizui while recovering the stolen eye. Too many possibilities.
But remember Madara and Danzo met at around the same time.

5th
but when we saw the sharingan collection we saw a eye in the thing where he keeped the eyes with a sticker on it which said shisui, but danzo destroyed the eye just before his death so how can madara have an eye of shisui ?

6th
Don't underestimate danzou. He was the leader of root. Though he is weaker than people like itachi and shisui well msot likely but consider this.

Getting shisui eye requires planning and stealth. Remember he can only use that ultimate jutsue once in a decade. If he managed to tire shisui out or decieve him in a mission he can manage to get that eye. Example,

Shisui appointed to a mission. just when shisui inspect soemthing they jump him and manage to get the one eye before he breaks free and escape.

just like how a lot of heroes etc beat their enemy when they are weaker.

7th
I don't think Danzou and Shisui fought, seeing that they were from the same village.

Shisui might have given up his right eyed Sharingan to Danzou for the sake off the village.

~I guess Shisui had the Mangekyou Sharingan so I wonder how he got it.

8th
"Why did Danzou get only one eye?"

He had no choice. Shisui used Kotoamatsukami on them to probably escape.

Proof that he used it? http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/65686308/12

Top-Left Panel. A mangekyou design similar to the crow when it came out of Naruto's mouth and time line accuracy.

The scenario:

Person A, B and C (there could be even more and it can also be an individual and oh, all are high level ninjas) ambushed Shisui in an instant. Shisui doesn't know what they want at first but when they aimed for his eyes and successfully took the right (eye), he quickly used Kotoamatsukami since he figured everything out and the rest was history.

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"How did the whole team get affected?"

Possible Answer: Not necessarily. If they already took Shisui's right eye, then that means Shisui was already defeated and is now in enemy hands. The enemies are already "relaxed". Shisui only needs one person to control using kotoamatsukami. One person is enough to kill the whole team since they'll be caught off-guard by sneak attacks.

OR

Shisui controlled the whole team. It is possible, given that it is the most powerful genjutsu and all. Adding to the fact that he is the original owner after all so it is plausible to say that he can access the full potential of Kotoamatsukami.

And of course, many other possibilities. .